Natural flow of conversation

Every conversation has a natural healthy aesthetic flow. When one decides to deviate from this, it is like tempting fate to blow you out.

Fate always lives up to the challenge.

I’ve noticed that a lot of guys talk way too much while gaming girls.  Being silent is actually a good thing and it is high value… make the girl work for you– dont fire off words like a machine gun all the time. You don’t win a girl over.. she wins you over.. thats how game is really played. [of course she doesn't know that you let her win you over]

LESS IS MORE

LESS IS MORE

LESS IS MORE

I’ve noticed that sometimes even I am guilty of this. If you cold approach, a lot of times you need to think on your feet because girls will give lame answers and just let the conversations die out completely. Unfortunately, a lot of guys get used to doing 90% of the talking and it just comes off like they are chasing the girl.

social pressure is actually your friend. All you have to do is apply a little pressure and see how the girl reacts. It is painfully obvious if you say “well it was nice meeting you” and the girl doesn’t say “hey… wait… do you want my number or something?” There are so many tests you can do (see double binds) to basically escalate for free.

If you think “hey you” is obvious to a girl [he likes me.. he just said hey you] just imagine how obvious it is when you’re smothering her with words for half an hour..

I think this is actually counter-intuitive because you think you are winning her over but by talking more you are succumbing to the social pressure of avoiding awkwardness. You can just let it roll and show that you are stronger.

This girl would get manhandled by a real man.. but she would probably kill the beta male.

I’ll catch myself about to say something extra to a booty call or prospect and i’ll see that shes desperately seeking rapport:

me:

her:

her:

im about to say something but I get distracted (luck)

her:

her:

“Never miss a good opportunity to keep your mouth shut.” — Dwight Eisenhower

I dont think he was talking about girls and pickup but it applies here as well.

Girls basically tell you all the information you need. They won’t say it all blunt but they will hint at it. They vibe with you, they tell you if they are interested or not, and they tell you what you need to do to fuck them. Literally, girls will pinpoint everything for you and give you a road map. You just have to know how to fucking translate girl talk into real talk. It’s all in the subtle cues if you just shut up and let her talk.

for example.

me: heyy you seem kinda fun, we should continue this over drinks sometime.. wanna exchange numbers?

hb8: well I have a boyfriend..where did you wanna go? (the where did you wanna go is an obvious one.. girls are usually much more subtle like “I cant… *slight pause/smile*.. I have a boyfriend”

[translation: I don't want my boyfriend catching me cheating on him through my phone/text messages but if you can be discreet and you get the point i'll let your big alpha dick penetrate my tight innocent hole and fill me with pleasure after a few drinks on Saturday... oh yeah you also have to be 100% responsible for it, you can't judge me, and I won't leave my BF for you please sign the contract below X________________]

beta answer: “ohh alright then! it was nice meeting you” or even worse [walking away dejected]

[what a beta would read it as: shes just rejecting me.. what the fuck.. shes just saying she has a boyfriend to let me down..]

me: Ah yeah I totally understand..im worried about my privacy too.. haha you know [smirk] what happens in vegas stays in vegas!

her: Yeah I know… [blah blah blah]

me: well I have this really cool [insert any excuse here] at my place just down the street.. you wanna see it?

[translation: I get it.. listen girl im not interested in harassing you over the phone.. I just wanna put the P in the V if you catch my drift real talk! lets go do this now.. im gonna give you everything you need.. plausible deniability, judgement free zone, discretion, high value, and a rush]

communication with girls is not about words. They aren’t going to tell you 100% truth so you really have to ask yourself “what is she trying to get across” or “what does she mean by this.. is she hinting at anything?” in your head. This is not obvious to a lot of guys out there.

For example, if a girl isolates herself with you – shes telling you she wants to fuck.. whether or not you are smart enough to figure it out is another matter entirely ;)

Sometimes situations are difficult to judge because there will be an awkward silence or you just don’t know what to say. Just ignore the girl or say something random and let her chime in while you figure out what the fuck just happened.

When a girl is talking to you, she is basically qualifying herself and earning you... Shes on the job and you’re the paycheck she wants so badly. So if you’re too busy running routineX to let her win you over, thats your loss.

Sometimes… you need to induce the competitive spirit inside of a girl.. either using a jealousy plot line or other game techniques like false disqualifiers.

Also, if you’re breaking the prize frame thats exactly why you aren’t getting laid. Girls want to chase you.. they get wet over the prospect of getting an unattainable man.. not hanging out with some guy who texts them every day!

I’ve actually been having a lot of fun watching girls panic under social pressure lately… its kind of funny.

“”The tendency to conformity in our society is so strong that reasonably intelligent and well-meaning young people are willing to call white black.”

This ties into my post on not giving a shit but sometimes its important to throw the girl a curveball. You get her to your room and she is expecting you to escalate.. If you don’t play it smart you’re gonna get LMR and LJBF.

Oh yeah.. don’t forget not to break congruence– because you don’t want your house of cards to fall over before you’ve gotten that sex. If you let a girl chase you all night and as soon as she gets in your room you start chasing her- the entire facade will implode on itself and she will realize u aren’t the prize. Breaking congruence especially in prizing is the fastest way to be blown out.

This stuff is painfully hard sometimes.. you literally have to pretend that you don’t like the girl pulling your dick out and shoving it inside of her. Imagine not getting any for a week or two and then you gotta pretend like you don’t care. You literally have to playfully resist her kisses and her advances. Keep that tension going for as long as possible-keep the mystery, the suspense, and the unpredictability. Once that is gone, your value is gone and the seduction is over. This is next level shit. This is game.

Why would you try to “game” a girl and “work hard” when you can pretend you are the prize and make her do all of the work to try to “win you over”. Sure its going to take a little bit of time for you to learn exactly how to induce her to chase you (hint read Tyler Durden C/S switch flipping) but in the long run its so worth it. She will feel better about it because to her it will be like “I want this guy hes a challenge im going to win him over” and you can feel good knowing you orchestrated the entire charade..

Its a lot of fun having to pretend that you wouldn’t fuck her in 2 seconds..

Its a great strategy.

talk less, make her work for it, and above all have fun!


4 Responses to “Natural flow of conversation”

  • Solo

    Paul great fucking post.

    This is the problem I’ve been having in the field as of late. It’s frustrating cause I’m busting my ass talking to a girl, trying to get her in engaged in the convo, and these bitches aren’t trying to contribute at all. I don’t know if I’m not hooking properly as of late or what. But these girls are boring, so sometimes I just walk away or they do. I also noticed if you talk to a woman sometimes, and say one wrong thing your disqualified and it could be something stupid.

    The whole if a girl wants to isolate herself with you she wants to fuck is true thats what happened to me this weekend.

    anyway man I’m just curious Paul what type of things do you talk about infield and do you walk away when a girl doesn’t engage or do you keep trying ?

    • paultheking

      It all comes down to value. If you follow BradP’s social circle game advice girls will be walking up to you and working for your attention. Its like playing a game of poker and only playing with great cards. Sure you can just roll with 2 low cards and maybe you will hit a straight but more likely you will lose a lot of money. Cold approaching is hard.. I’ve read some statistics that say about 700 cold approaches leads to only a few lays.. Yeah girls don’t do anything by accident.. if she lingers a little too long or brushes her body up against you its because she wants you.. the isolation is huge ;) . Paying attention to small cues will basically tell you which girls want you, which aren’t sure, and which will blow you out.

      Lately I’ve been keeping conversations short and social (aka say hey to everyone in the club, boost your value, convey preselection etc)
      I don’t stick around too long with any one set and I don’t make it seem like I am there to pick up. Rather it is a fun night out with friends where I meet cool people and I use a combination of techniques (back turn, social pressure, loops) to gauge the interest of the people im talking to. If the interest is moderate I will trade contact info and depending on how good it is I’ll try for a one night stand. I don’t like pushing things, if I go into a set and a girl doesn’t like me I will give her the back turn while I talk her friends up for 2-5 minutes.

      There is a fine line between not wanting to approach because you’re making an excuse and not approaching because you know you will get blown out.. experience is the way to tell

      • Solo

        Paul this is the method I use, I basically go “indirect” (“hey ladies how you doing tonight”) and basically just try to “vibe” with them and see whats up. I don’t go after numbers anymore cause numbers don’t mean shit. Lot of times I come of a “promoter” trying to “network” etc things like that.

        I’ve been doing the social circle gaming on and off for 8 months now, but it’s just like cold approaching, cause if a girl doesn’t give a shit about you, you won’t get in the “circle” your easier off meeting cool dudes for social circle gaming.

  • Vincent Ignatius

    One habit that I’ve developed with chat and text that I’m trying to implement in live conversations is writing everything down, and then deleting about half of it. It’s worked great so far. In field, I’m going to have to train myself to think through my words faster.

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